Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: That external validation isn't really something that I seek or trust.
Yeah. So for me, fame is definitely not something that I seek, but it's also not really something that I feel.
[00:00:16] Speaker B: This is Image Unscripted podcast, presented by the NAACP and hosted by me, Jemele Hill. Image Unscripted features candid conversations with its brightest black voices, discussing pivotal life moments, giving them their flowers for advancing the community.
Today we've got Critics Choice Award winner Miles Caton, the young star of Sinners, where he captivated audiences in his magnetic role as blues guitar playing Sammy Moore. Joining him on our couch is Jaz Sinclair, star of Gen V, who plays.
[00:00:46] Speaker C: The powerful Marie Moreau and earlier this.
[00:00:49] Speaker B: Year was even honored for her work receiving the Most Promising Talent award at the International Monte Carlo Television Festival.
Rounding out our crew today, we've got Tyrique Withers, breakout star of the movie him I Know what yout Did Last Summer, and his newest film, Reminders of Him.
[00:01:06] Speaker C: And of course, we'll also get into.
[00:01:08] Speaker B: What representation means to them and how they are including their own narratives into this mosaic of culture.
[00:01:17] Speaker C: Welcome, you all. Thank you all for joining me here on Image Unscripted. You all looking like new money, looking moisturized, healthy. Come on.
[00:01:26] Speaker D: Appreciate it.
[00:01:28] Speaker C: Listen, this has been incredible years for all of you all. You know, you've done a lot of things. You are the epitome of booked and busy. So I'm going to throw this question out to the group. And Miles, I'm gonna put the pressure on you to answer first.
[00:01:40] Speaker E: Hey.
[00:01:40] Speaker C: All right.
[00:01:41] Speaker E: And y', all, no Happy New Year. No nothing.
[00:01:45] Speaker C: We're too far.
It's been a week. Yes, it has been. We too far into it. And I get the rule of. You tell people happy New Year if you haven't seen them. But, no, we too far.
[00:01:56] Speaker E: It's the new year because it's finally not raining. You know, it's like a couple days of sunshine.
[00:02:01] Speaker C: Okay, well, that also works as well.
Yeah. I'm gonna start this question off with you, and I want the whole group to answer.
Now that you have had the success, fame, does it feel like how you thought it would feel?
[00:02:17] Speaker A: Hmm.
[00:02:18] Speaker D: That's a good question.
I think so, in some ways. I think it varies, but.
[00:02:30] Speaker C: Um.
[00:02:33] Speaker D: Yeah, I think it's. It's kind of how you see it on the tv. But, I mean, I think everybody internalizes it differently, you know, And I think, like, ultimately what your. What your goal is or what you're chasing is what's important. And I think that's what kind of Dictates how you navigate through things. Me, I mean, outside of, you know, music and acting, I feel like I'm a pretty introverted person. Like I just be chilling in the house. I don't really, you know, I'm not like out too much. So aside from that, I'm not, you know, attention is not really my thing. So I feel like when you're.
When that's the goal, when it's like the art and you just really love to create, you kind of can just like all the other stuff and you know, the interviews and the press and all that stuff, it kind of comes with the game. You can navigate it that way. So yeah.
[00:03:22] Speaker E: I think that the idea of success is still a spectrum for me. You know, I think what is success? I think on the journey of pursuing the acting, I think I've had some successful moments, but I'm always on that pursuit of like self healing. And I think it's not what I thought it would be like. You know, a few years ago, you know, you get into this industry and you think it's going to be one thing and then all the attention on you just makes you self like reflect. And I think these past few months I've been falling in love with myself and healing that inner child. And I think it, you know, so many eyes and opinions thrown at you, you refer back to the only one that matters, which is yourself. And so I've been redefining my why and bringing more depth to my journey.
Because if you create to be famous, then you're always chasing that fame. And I think the stories all of us here have indulged in, art, that has more meaning, it has a bigger message than itself. And I think as long as I'm on that pursuit, I'm in the right category.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I relate to what both of you guys are saying.
I'm also pretty introverted.
I really like being home. I really like my dog and my friends and food and you know, so that external validation isn't really something that I seek or trust.
Yeah. So for me, fame is definitely not something that I seek, but it's also not really something that I feel like I don't really like, relate to the idea of being famous kind of at all.
I think I just am existing. And then there's people watching me online, which is only a tiny percentage of what's really going on. So I don't really, I try not to digest that too deeply and then, you know, then people will come up to me and they're very nice. So I'm like, oh, yeah, I did do that thing.
Thank you. But as far as, like, fame as a concept, it's not really something that I, like, need or care much about, to be honest.
[00:05:40] Speaker C: Y' all are way too adjusted to be at this age. You're like. I mean, because I'm just thinking of myself at your age. And I was like, oh, my God. I would have said something totally ridiculous and preposterous.
So I appreciate the fact that you all are. You have enough depth and perspective to, like, understand what this is. But, you know, now that you're in it and you are famous, and I know, I can see why that label would make you a little bit uncomfortable.
What. What about being famous or what's something about being famous that you wish someone would have told you that you didn't expect?
[00:06:20] Speaker E: That's a great question.
[00:06:21] Speaker A: That is a great question.
[00:06:23] Speaker E: I think the idea of fame, I wish somebody would have told me, is the level of responsibility you have in being perceived. You know, even when we don't think we're being perceived, we're being perceived. And I'm a new kid on the block, and I'm just scratching the surface. So I can only imagine how these people who've been in it for decades feel. And so I think the level of responsibility, how you carry yourself, you never know who's watching. I think you have an idea, but I think, you know, putting art out into the world this past year, you start to see who and how it affects people in the most peculiar levels, you know, And I think I didn't really get that until people are confiding in me, in their trauma or, you know, I felt seen in your work here.
And I don't think it would have deterred me, but I think it would have, you know, added more depth earlier to my chase of this film world. So I think that will be mine, I think.
[00:07:27] Speaker D: No, for sure. I definitely think the pressure is definitely, I think, a big element.
The idea of, you know, I think it's a balance of, You know, that pressure and, like, kind of being under the microscope. And, you know, you want to represent yourself in the best way possible. And like, you.
I think you carry that where you go. But then it's also, you know, you're putting work out there. You're putting, you know, your talent out there for people to, you know, like, perceive or for people to, you know, resonate with. So it's like you can't really dictate, you know, how your art makes somebody feel or what, you know, what they comment about or how they feel about it. So I think it's just, you know, I think talking about that and kind of understanding that more early on would probably.
Would just prepare me a little more for it. But I feel like understanding that now I'm able to navigate it better.
[00:08:28] Speaker A: I think what I wish somebody had told me in the becoming somebody that people are aware of as a black woman is that not everybody's gonna love that you're doing well.
I'd definitely kind of found out the hard way that, like, some people are super excited and supportive of your work and your presence in general, and then other people are like, why you? You know, and so kind of having to face that pretty early in my career was a little shocking and uncomfortable, for sure. So I think I wish I had been a little bit more armed for that. Like, you know, you're also going to get some haters.
Yeah.
[00:09:08] Speaker C: I want to follow up on that with you in particular, because of Gen V and the type of work that you do. Like, this is the supernatural world where you're dealing with a different type of f.
Right.
Cause I know, like, you were at Comic Con. I've been at Comic Con. And you know how they show up. They showing up as you or showing up in full outfits. These are a really committed fan base. And you've seen other black actors in those worlds go through a level of scrutiny, and as you said, people thinking you don't belong in the comic or supernatural world. So how do you handle that backlash?
[00:09:44] Speaker A: Well, actually, it's kind of the opposite experience, I think, because I had. Had been just a little bullied, to be honest. Like, early on in my career, I was. I was ready to piss people off just by being a black female superhero.
And just. Yeah, the superhero fan base in general can be very misogynistic and, you know, limited, and they want things a certain way. And so I was kind of gearing up for a little bit more hate. But actually, people have been so supportive and just, like, generally very excited to see me in this role and, like, really kind.
Yeah, I actually don't have any bad experiences as far as fans with this role so far, which is amazing.
[00:10:29] Speaker C: You guys all came from very, very different backgrounds in terms of how your success started.
Was there a moment, or maybe it was more than one moment where you felt like you weren't sure if you could actually do this? Not, like, the work itself, but, like, become successful and become, you know, not necessarily famous, but, you know, really dive in and get a chance to be A working actor. You know, was there a moment where you said to yourself, I'm not really sure I can do this every day?
[00:11:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:06] Speaker C: To be honest, Yeah.
[00:11:09] Speaker E: I think coming from. I. I was born in Florida, in and out of Chicago, so it was so far.
[00:11:15] Speaker C: Duval, right?
[00:11:16] Speaker E: Duval County. Yeah.
[00:11:17] Speaker C: Good old Jacksonville.
[00:11:18] Speaker E: And it, like, there was no real, like, way into the arts. And so I think you just kind of never knew. You just had, like, this delusional confidence of, like, oh, I'm yearning for something greater, deeper than what I am currently doing, which was education and. Or sports.
So I think a big pivotal time in my life was. I think when Covet hit. I was graduating college and I had, like, two roads to go into, like, working HR or, like, try acting. And I think that was the moment where I. I had the deepest fear of, like, I don't know if I can do this, but I still chose to do it anyway. And in that pursuit, I think it's this constant, you know, cycle of, okay, I think I can do it. Oh, wait. I think I can do it. Oh, wait. And I think that's the beauty of it. I think that's the beauty of life. I think that's the beauty of what we do as actors. We, despite our insecurities, we choose to, you know, show our bellies to the universe on. On sets. And we just. We fail. We try again. We know what it's like to do another one, do another one. And, you know, like, what you have to do, you're singing on set. You know, you're playing instruments. And so it's a very vulnerable thing. And I.
Living in that vulnerability is why.
Is how you speak to the world. And I think, yeah, it's a constant cycle. Even, like, right now, tomorrow, I'll wake up like, okay, we gotta figure something out. So.
[00:12:49] Speaker C: Miles, did you go through that at all of.
[00:12:51] Speaker D: Yeah, I mean, I think.
[00:12:52] Speaker C: Wondering if you could do it.
[00:12:53] Speaker D: Yeah, there's always. I mean, this project in particular was just, like, so crazy. It's like. It's still sometimes crazy to think about, like, how everything. I just felt like everything happened so fast. But there was definitely.
There was definitely doubt, you know, throughout the whole process. But I feel like there's always.
You always know, like, when it's, like, something you can do. Like, I think it's always.
You always have to make it a point to step out of your comfort zone and never be too comfortable because, you know, you become stagnant. You know, there's no growth, there's no progress.
So for this One, I felt like I was jumping like off a building, but with no parachute.
[00:13:36] Speaker C: But what was giving you that feeling? And you're talking about your experience on Sinners, obviously.
[00:13:42] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. I mean, everything is Ryan Coogler. It's Michael B. Jordan. It's the whole idea of the film, it being original and having so many different genres and elements to it. It kind of felt like something that we had never seen before. And I think that's always kind of a scary feeling when it's like you're creating something new that the world has yet to perceive or make of. So you don't know exactly how it's gonna pan out. So I think it's just working through that. When you feel like it's something special and it's something that can be different. I think pushing past that doubt and that fear is always the way to go.
[00:14:19] Speaker E: And I feel like I don't know what this is like, but extra responsibility. Cause you are, I feel, in my opinion, the heartbeat of that film. And I remember watching in 70 millimeter in LA at the LA screening and leaving that theater and we share an agent and I texted our agent immediately. I was like, miles, a star, you know, so I just want to give you your flowers and holding the weight. Not only one, Michael B. Jordan two, you know, and it's your first film.
[00:14:49] Speaker D: Facts. Yeah, man.
[00:14:51] Speaker E: I'm very inspired by.
[00:14:52] Speaker D: Appreciate it, bro. Likewise.
[00:14:53] Speaker C: Yeah, Yeah. I mean, I guess I'll ask both of you this because Sinners is, I think probably for 2024, definitely one of the most important movies that was made.
You know, you talked about how you felt as an artist watching his work. Jaz, how did you feel about this movie and like, what it kind of brought to the industry for Sinners?
[00:15:15] Speaker A: Yes. Oh, interesting. First of all, I also loved it.
I thought it was excellent. I thought your performance was excellent. Thank you.
Yeah, I just, I mean, it was beautifully shot. The story is amazing, the performances are incredible. And also, like, I just loved the risks that the film took. I mean, that whole sequence when we're time traveling through music, that scene literally made me cry. I just was like, you know, because it's all present all of the time. And I just thought that was like a really brave part of that movie. And then also just like the supernatural twist. I love everything supernatural. And then the hive mind of it all. I don't know, I just really felt like this film was like pushing barriers as far as storytelling because it felt like, you know what it is and then it changes and then you Think you know what it is and then it changes. So I also loved Sinners.
[00:16:06] Speaker D: That's what's up.
[00:16:07] Speaker E: I think the beautiful thing about acting is what I've come to realize is like, whenever I'm performing, I always. I feel like there's always a soundtrack. Soundtrack under whatever's happening visually. And I think Sinners is the epitome of that. It three dimensionalizes the music and you bring it to screen and to sing from a place that's so soulful, you know, I think that that's. That's beyond talent. It's beyond the gift.
And it was just a blessing to witness that and feel it constantly feel it because, like, that's iconography. I don't know if you know, but that's how I feel.
And it's going to go down in history as like, one of the greatest performances. So thank you.
[00:16:49] Speaker D: Appreciate y'.
[00:16:50] Speaker C: All. Man, y' all making him blush over.
[00:16:53] Speaker D: Here a little bit, it feels. It's just. It feels really special to be a part of that. You know, it's like.
I think I watched.
I think I was like 12 the first time I saw Black Panther and I remember being in the theater and just like just being mind blown by just seeing us like on the screen portrayed in that way.
And, you know, Ryan's work, I think you kind of see, like, you know, how he structures his films. It's always cultural, it's always has, like a deep impact, but it's got so many other things around it that, you know, make it, you know, so interesting for people to watch. So the fact that could be a part of something like that is just mind blowing.
[00:17:35] Speaker C: Yeah, it is amazing how he's able to do that time and again. Cause even with Black Panther 2, with Wakanda Forever, when I saw the trailer, when it dropped, I texted him and I was like, no, I literally have tears in my eyes just watching the trailer. So I was like, I can't wait to see the rest of the film. Now, since we're talking about bold, edgy work, Tyreek definitely wanna ask you about him.
[00:17:58] Speaker D: Yes, sir.
[00:17:59] Speaker C: I know whether to be.
I was a mixture of intrigued, terrified watching that movie.
You know, there.
It's something dark about it. But I guess because sports is my background, understanding how athletes think and work, and you have, obviously you were an athlete, you have that mentality. But how did you emotionally push yourself in that movie to bring out what we saw on screen?
[00:18:28] Speaker E: I think that ties into your question earlier is what I wish people would have told me before I Pursued this.
This. This passion. I think we're all mosaics, a collection of our own experiences, whether it was joyful moments, trauma. And I think coming into that, that set, it was, you know, my first big lead. And I could relate to the character on a whole different level. I played college football, sports, and I think I just.
I flew close to the sun when it came to that, where Cameron Kay is my character's name.
You know, I kind of use my own personal experiences. The feeling of not being good enough. The feeling of feeling. The feeling of being neglected by a parent or, you know, trying to make your parents proud. You know, I think the external validation of, okay, I scored a touchdown today. I scored a goal.
I know what that feels like. It's very personal to me. And I think even switching into the art arts, I'm still struggling with that. Where, you know, when you play sports, there's statistics, there's validation, there's coaches that tell you, okay, you're good. So you go here. And I think art is, like. It's very subjective. And with this character, I. I used a lot of my own personal trauma.
There's a scene where he's talking about his father who passed away. And I think we all can relate to that, that level of grief.
And it just kind of redefined my relationship with grief. You know, before I had such a, you know, angry relationship with grief. And then doing this movie, I think I realized that grief is actually a beautiful tragedy. I think when you share it, you make others feel seen. And I think not only you grief, you grieve.
Like family members or friends, you grieve who you once were. I think that's the pursuit of greatness.
You know, that's what my character was struggling with, where, you know, the innocence. The grief of the innocence.
Yeah. So it just made me hone in on what grief truly is. And so, yeah, and it just healed me as a person because I use my own personal experiences, and I just made a better version of Tyreek.
So, yeah, that's how I brought that character to life.
[00:20:55] Speaker C: Now, Miles, I know you had to learn to play the guitar.
You were in a little bit different situation because you actually played football. So, like, it's not like you have to learn how to throw.
[00:21:05] Speaker E: Yo, I had to learn how to throw. I didn't know how to throw. Oh, you didn't? No. What position did you play before? I played wide receivers, but I thought.
[00:21:12] Speaker C: I just assumed even those who play different positions, sometimes they coming up through foul, they might play a little quarterback.
[00:21:18] Speaker E: Or Something I trained for a while with actual, like, NFL quarterbacks.
[00:21:22] Speaker C: Who'd you train with?
[00:21:23] Speaker E: So Jordan Palmer, he's an NFL quarterback coach. So you have people like Josh Allen that came in, and I got to watch them work, and I just got into the mix. Joe Milton. I don't want to get it wrong. Was it Tennessee that he played for?
[00:21:38] Speaker C: Yes, you are correct, yes.
[00:21:39] Speaker E: And then now he played for the Cowboys, I believe. But I just say this. You show up and you're like, hi, I'm an actor.
And yeah, it took me a while to.
[00:21:48] Speaker C: But you're a competitor. So I'm sure part of you was trying to.
[00:21:51] Speaker E: And part of that was like telling the movie is like you live in that competition.
When you have somebody like Marlon Wayans to go against, it produces.
[00:21:58] Speaker C: Jaz, you have played such interesting characters, to say the least, because I was thinking about you from the movie. Was it when the bow breaks? Right.
You play a terrific psychopath.
[00:22:12] Speaker A: Thanks so much. Yes, you do.
[00:22:15] Speaker C: But it seems like that what is the consistent theme in your work is, like, you are pushing and stretching yourself and finding ways to, frankly, elevate how a lot of black women are seen in these major roles.
So when you are thinking about a project, what is it that comes first for you? Is it the story? Is it the character? Like, how do you evaluate what you want to be a part of?
[00:22:38] Speaker A: I think it is the character for me.
Yeah. Just because, like, as a black woman who grew up, I felt like I didn't necessarily always feel represented or didn't see the kind of complex stories that I wanted to see or just wanted to see more of them.
And so for me, I do really care about characters that are not perfect.
I don't want to play any two dimensional characters. I don't want to play a character that starts somewhere and ends in that same place.
So I'm always looking for somebody with flaws because I think it humanizes us.
I think it's important to do that and not just say, oh, you're the smart one, or you're the whatever. I want to watch the human experience, and I want to play roles that really embody the different facets of that. And so, yeah, something that I look for in a character is somebody who's not perfect because I find it more interesting now.
[00:23:46] Speaker C: Like, Miles, you kind of connect music and acting.
[00:23:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:49] Speaker C: How do those fuse together for you?
[00:23:51] Speaker A: I mean, I just love music so much.
I'm listening to music constantly. I'm always trying to find new artists. I'm always writing songs and singing and sharing music with my friends. And so as far as how it connects to acting, it's just never not a part of my life and my days. And so, you know, I'll make playlists and for characters, and hopefully we'll have my songs, you know, in the soundtracks as well.
But, yeah, they are kind of separate right now, which I also don't hate. Like, I like that I get to go and work on something that somebody else wrote and then go home and write how I feel.
Yeah.
[00:24:34] Speaker C: Tyrique, you said something earlier about actors and insecurities. And I think most audiences, people who watch you all, can't imagine what you all would be insecure about. I don't know why they would think that, but I get it. Because of we're going off what we see off screen.
But I love for all of you to answer this. But of course, Tyreek, we can start with you. How do you deal with the self doubt? Because you're kind of in a rejection business. You guys are gonna hear way more no's than yeses. So, like, how do you handle and cope with the self doubt?
[00:25:06] Speaker E: Therapy. Yeah, that's a big one.
I think developing a healthy relationship with therapy, that was my journey of 2025, remembering 2026.
But, yeah, I think that journey of self doubt is surrounding yourself with people who. Who love you. And I think when you show.
I surround myself and it's a new journey, but I show people my darkness, but they still look at me like the sun, you know, And I think that is what. What keeps me going. And that felt like a bar, by the way. Yeah, I know.
[00:25:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:38] Speaker C: I was literally just like, okay, I felt like a bar.
[00:25:43] Speaker E: Oh, I'm sure I heard it somewhere.
No, but, like, yeah, I think that's what's important, is having that village to, like, lift you up. Because I'm not here alone. You know, I'm very privileged to have, you know, mom who's supportive, you know, for friends, people who I thought were friends, you know, because you grieve those friendships, but they were there for a reason.
And I think that's something that I. I use. And also, I. You just change your way of thinking. You know, I think you get into those uncomfortable spaces and you have to, you know, I think, you know, I say show your belly, but when. When. When cats trust you, they show you their belly. And I think that's what we do. We show the world our organs. And I know it's bigger than me, and I have a purpose. And I think knowing My purpose is, is what keeps me going. And I know there's going to be some, some, some little kid out there, 12 year old, watching me, you know, Black Panther, you know what I'm saying? That that's going to feel inspired and want to pursue greatness.
And so I just constantly remind myself of that. And you know, I have an eight year old nephew. What is he going to think? He's the biggest critic in my life, you know.
So I think that's how I push past that.
[00:27:04] Speaker C: How do you two handle the self doubt part of it, of your jobs?
[00:27:14] Speaker A: Well, the thing that's coming to my mind right now because this is what I'm currently doing, my best friend is here with me because we're doing clown school this week, which.
[00:27:23] Speaker C: Tell me more.
[00:27:24] Speaker A: Yeah, so the entire entire like theory around it is basically failing and realizing that you're okay. It's making a complete fool of yourself and then continuing and not giving up and not leaving and not walking away and just kind of like facing that part of yourself that is so scared of rejection or so scared of being ugly or stupid or whatever.
And so that's what I'm doing this week to work on self doubt. But I agree with you completely about the people in my life.
I, I do feel so supported and loved and so it's like, you know, like I think, I think a bit of self doubt is good and natural and healthy, but then it's just self flagellation and narcissism and it's like there's 8 billion people in the world and isn't this moment of self doubt the most important thing? Like I think zooming out on it and realizing that there's really no unique experience under the sun. Like we all feel all of the things.
Which kind of brings me to what is so cool about being an artist. It's shining light on those things, the things that unify us and make us feel less alone in everything. And self doubt is one of them. And so I just try not to swim in it too long is how I handle it.
[00:28:44] Speaker D: Yeah, I mean for me it's definitely, I think it's really important to have a solid support system, family, friends who know you, who can keep you grounded.
Outside of all of the stuff that we do. I think we're all in the industry where it's like when you're around people and we're all working together, it's easy to hear all the good that you're doing or just highlight the positive stuff. But to have people in your Corner be like, all right, just keep you grounded. I think it's important to have that prayer.
And then I think for me, it's like, I know how much worse I would feel if I didn't, like, try, like, if I didn't go through with it. I know that to me is scarier than succumbing to the doubt. So I think always just having that determination to get it done is what drives me. Yeah.
[00:29:42] Speaker C: All right, I'm gonna ask you guys one more introspective question before we get to the fun stuff.
Fun but difficult. No, I'm just kidding.
[00:29:49] Speaker E: Okay.
[00:29:50] Speaker C: All right, so I'm sure you guys, you guys have many times heard the question of like, okay, what would you tell your younger self? Frankly, y' all too young for me to even ask y' all that. So unless you're going back to when you were five, it doesn't make any sense. So I'm gonna ask you the opposite, sort of the inverse of this question.
What would you tell your older self about the life that you are living now?
[00:30:12] Speaker A: I think I'd say I'm doing it for her.
Like, kind of along the lines of what you're saying with like the inner child work and healing and just trying to be a balanced person who gets to create in the world. It's, you know, the day to day barbs that we experience and work through and everything. Like, I really feel like I'm doing all of these things so that when I am my older self, I'm pretty comfy and calm and chill, you know, like I'm trucking so that she feels good.
[00:30:42] Speaker E: That's beautiful.
I don't know how to follow that one up.
That's a great one.
What would I say to my older self?
I think I would just say, I hope you feel loved.
And I think I'm always looking for the love. Find the love. Loving the scene, loving the friendship, loving the brotherhood, loving the sisterhood, you know, I think this industry can create a very lonely experience.
And God willing, if I'm able to continue telling stories. I think there's a lot of people who try to take, take, take energy wise.
And I just want to make sure older me is okay. And I would let him know that I'm proud of him whether he's in this pursuit of being an actor or not, because that doesn't matter. I think it's the humanity, the human experience.
Yeah, I would just be like, hope you're loved. Just know I'm proud of you. So, yeah, yeah.
[00:31:55] Speaker D: I would say definitely like, just like you still.
I hope to still, like, love what I'm doing, you know, I think, I mean, I love what I'm doing now, but it's also, I'm in a stage where it's like I want to work, you know, Like, I'm in like, grind mode where, like, I'm ready to just, you know, knock everything outside. Once I get to that point, I can have that comfortability. I can, you know, set my family up and just be able to do certain things.
But I think along that journey, it's like you can, you know, you can get lost and it can become, you know, not fun. So I think I would tell myself, you gonna be good. For sure, you gonna be good, you're gonna be chilling. But just, you know, make sure you still love what you do. You know, your heart is in the right place.
[00:32:47] Speaker C: Okay, our on the couch psychotherapy is over now. It's. Yeah, it's time for some fun stuff. So gonna sort of wrap things up with a game.
[00:32:59] Speaker D: Uh.
[00:32:59] Speaker C: Oh, yes. A game that. This is where I feel like the controversy always happens. Cause, like, when people find out what you like and don't like, that's when they get on you. And so games, because, you know, they always tell you something interesting about people. It's called this or that. We give y' all two choices that.
[00:33:16] Speaker E: Made some people mad.
[00:33:17] Speaker D: Yep. Good.
[00:33:18] Speaker C: Yes, that's the way it should be. Make them angry. Two choices. You must choose one. Don't try to introduce a third option. Don't. Don't say like, for context. Two choices. A or B. All right.
Insecure or Atlanta.
[00:33:35] Speaker A: Insecure.
[00:33:36] Speaker C: I have a feeling which one you're gonna be.
[00:33:39] Speaker E: Atlanta. But we love insecure.
[00:33:42] Speaker C: Yes, Love insecure. But you were on Atlanta, so I understand this.
[00:33:46] Speaker D: I'm say Atlanta.
[00:33:47] Speaker C: Atlanta. Okay. A first class flight or a five star hotel.
[00:33:53] Speaker A: See, first class flight.
Just a million percent.
[00:33:58] Speaker E: Yeah, I'm honestly like, I'm too big.
I'm like 6:12, like being like in the plane. So I just like, with like this year, like they, they send you on flights and they put you in first class. I'm like, oh, this is nice. So anytime. First class.
[00:34:15] Speaker C: Yeah, especially you get the lay. Flat seats.
Game changers.
[00:34:19] Speaker D: First class.
[00:34:20] Speaker C: First class. All right. Voice note or text essay.
[00:34:24] Speaker A: Oh, I.
I feel like this is where we're gonna. This is gonna be the thing that turns us against each other.
[00:34:30] Speaker E: So I had a friend send me like a six min voice note and it took me two weeks to get back to it. It's Like a podcast, you know, at one point at least if you send me a paragraph, I can skim it. Cliff Notes version, you know, So I say a paragraph.
There's a limit, though. There's a limit, though.
[00:34:52] Speaker D: It's so. So because. Because. Is it like.
Is it reading it or is it like tech, like, sending it out?
[00:34:58] Speaker E: Oh, changes a lot.
[00:35:00] Speaker D: Yeah, that changes it. Because I feel like if I'm.
I feel like I would text more, but I feel like just to get a voice note, I feel like it would be more convenient.
[00:35:10] Speaker C: Oh, okay.
[00:35:11] Speaker D: But it depends on.
[00:35:12] Speaker C: Right.
[00:35:12] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:35:13] Speaker C: You're saying, like, if you're personally like you, right?
[00:35:15] Speaker D: If I'm doing. Yeah, yeah.
[00:35:16] Speaker C: But you rather receive.
[00:35:17] Speaker D: I'd rather type it out.
[00:35:20] Speaker A: Yeah. I think I have voice notes. I think I'm. I like, I love it when my girls send me a podcast.
Like, send me the 12 minute thing.
[00:35:26] Speaker D: I'm like, get to it.
[00:35:28] Speaker E: Get to it.
[00:35:28] Speaker A: No, I want to hear about all of it and I want to tell.
[00:35:31] Speaker C: You about all of it. So I like voice notes or since you started it. All right.
[00:35:37] Speaker D: The Siri, when you just say it and it writes out the words.
[00:35:40] Speaker E: I've never done that, bro.
[00:35:43] Speaker D: Now that's easy.
[00:35:44] Speaker C: See, I feel like it gets it wrong, though.
[00:35:46] Speaker A: It does.
[00:35:46] Speaker C: And then I also have a foul mouth. So, like, it's just not gonna work. It's not gonna get the right translated F word.
[00:35:53] Speaker A: Duck.
[00:35:53] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying?
[00:35:54] Speaker A: Duck you.
[00:35:55] Speaker C: Duck you. Right? That's what it's gon to be like. That's ridiculous. Okay. Social media breaks or just staying tapped in?
[00:36:02] Speaker A: Social media breaks.
[00:36:04] Speaker E: Social media breaks.
[00:36:05] Speaker C: Breaks. What's the longest breaks you. You guys have taken?
[00:36:09] Speaker A: I'll just. For like four or five months.
Like, I definitely just get off of there sometimes when I'm like, healthy and happy. I do.
[00:36:19] Speaker C: That's very well addressed.
[00:36:19] Speaker E: I don't think I've gotten there, but it's a journey.
[00:36:23] Speaker C: It's a journey.
[00:36:23] Speaker E: It's a journey. Yes.
[00:36:25] Speaker D: I think.
I think I did maybe.
Maybe a month.
I did a month when TikTok shut down, bro. I was hurt, bro.
[00:36:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:36] Speaker D: I was like, nah, this is not it.
[00:36:38] Speaker E: It's easy when you're working too. Like, I feel like I do breaks when I work.
[00:36:43] Speaker C: Would you rather play the hero or the villain.
[00:36:51] Speaker E: In life on screen?
[00:36:55] Speaker C: On screen.
[00:37:00] Speaker D: I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say hero.
I'm gonna say hero.
[00:37:05] Speaker E: Yeah, I'll say hero as well.
[00:37:07] Speaker A: I think. Hero.
Yeah.
[00:37:09] Speaker C: Even though you make a good villain.
[00:37:10] Speaker E: Thank You.
[00:37:11] Speaker A: I would do it again. Like, I love playing a villain. I think. I think I would. I think I would like to do that next. A villain would be really cool, but the hero arc is really just a fun one to study.
It just really taps into the human spirit, and I like that.
[00:37:26] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:37:26] Speaker C: And finally, watching your own work or avoiding it.
[00:37:32] Speaker A: Avoiding it.
[00:37:33] Speaker C: You don't like to watch yourself?
[00:37:34] Speaker A: I will do it, like, at the premiere, you know, and it's good. Like, I feel like you need to see it, but I just don't like to watch it. Yeah, it just makes me feel awkward and self critical.
But there's also the thing that's, like, the first time you watch it, you notice all the, like, things that you want to change or pick apart about yourself. And then the second time you watch it, you can kind of, like, watch it.
[00:37:59] Speaker E: So actually my experience is flipped because I'm like, so overwhelmed. I'm like. And then I watch it again. I'm like, you know, Yeah. I think I avoid my work after it comes out, but I think when I'm on set, I'm like, chronically, like, trying to see it, because coming from sports, you, like, watch film and then you're like, you can't see yourself. So, like, some. Some tics that I've done, like, apparently I blink a lot. There's a close up, so I wouldn't know that if I didn't watch. So I think when I'm working, I. I chronically watch it.
[00:38:31] Speaker D: Yeah, watch, watch.
[00:38:33] Speaker C: Okay, well, look, See, that was painless. Right?
Well, listen, I want to thank all of you for joining me. You guys have had incredible starts to your career, and you've accomplished so much. And the beauty of it is, like, you are just really scratching the surface. Like, ceiling is way up here. So enjoy the moment, enjoy the success. Like, it goes by fast, right, this whole journey. So. But thank you all and congratulations on everything and. And continue to entertain us, make us laugh, cry, feel all the things, hate you, love you, all those things. So congratulations and thank you for joining. Unscripted. That's it for this episode of Image Unscripted, presented by the naacp. Huge thanks to Tyreek Withers, Jaz Sinclair.
[00:39:17] Speaker B: And Miles Caton for sharing their inspirations, highs and keeping it real.
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